Can I haz "Insert plane here" please?

[luizdom]

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200 pax for -200 is right, but the max 8 I find here that is equal to the 737-800, 189 max pax.

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http://www.b737.org.uk/737max.htm

-8

FF 29 Jan 2016, Approx 3,600 on order.

This is the baseline MAX, equivalent of the 737-800. Almost all of the orders so far are for this version. The type entered service on 22 May 2017 with Malindo (Batik) Air of Malaysia.

Length 39.52m / 129 feet 8 inches
Single class passenger capacity of 189

[Stebah]

Sorry to resurrect the thread, but any chance we can get the 737MAX series?

EDIT: Added the 737 MAX 8 to the database, someone may want to double check me on the technical info however.

EDIT OF THE EDIT: The OEW seems wrong on my end, I used Maximum Zero Fuel Weight instead of OEW. From what I can find it appears to be the same as the 737-800 at 91,300 lbs

The OEW isn't the same for the 737-800 and the 737-8 (MAX). Boeing beefed up the landing gear, the winglets are bigger and heavier, the tail section has been altered and the engines are almost 1000 lbs heavier. 

According to the data I found on Boeing's site the minimum weight they mention presumably the OEW is 96,000 lbs. Do note that the ACAPS document on the site is from July 2015 and hasn't been updated yet.

[Unknown98]

Okay so I changed the max seating capacity to 189, changed the OEW to 96,000 lbs for now, and updated the MTOW to 181,200 lbs. That's the most accurate data I could find. We can always update it later. I also could not find any info on the runway requirement so I'll just assume it's correct.

The MAX 200 (I've also seen it marketed as the MAX 8-200) has a capacity of 200 passengers. But it is a different aircraft technically. I think it has an extra exit door and less galleys to accommodate the extra seats.

Thats the problem with brand new aircraft like this, sometimes it's hard to find accurate info.

[Stebah]

Okay so I changed the max seating capacity to 189, changed the OEW to 96,000 lbs for now, and updated the MTOW to 181,200 lbs. That's the most accurate data I could find. We can always update it later. I also could not find any info on the runway requirement so I'll just assume it's correct.

The MAX 200 (I've also seen it marketed as the MAX 8-200) has a capacity of 200 passengers. But it is a different aircraft technically. I think it has an extra exit door and less galleys to accommodate the extra seats.

Thats the problem with brand new aircraft like this, sometimes it's hard to find accurate info.

When Boeing finally updates the ACAPS document the plane can be updated, but that can take some time with Boeing. The MAX 200 indeed has an extra type C door if I remember correctly. It's just there for emergency situations, but it could be plugged, then you have a standard 737-8 minus the different cabin and galley layout.

[WhiteFright]

Yeah. Now we just gotta wait for the MAX 7 and MAX 9 to enter service.

[Stebah]

Okay so I changed the max seating capacity to 189, changed the OEW to 96,000 lbs for now, and updated the MTOW to 181,200 lbs. That's the most accurate data I could find. We can always update it later. I also could not find any info on the runway requirement so I'll just assume it's correct.

The MAX 200 (I've also seen it marketed as the MAX 8-200) has a capacity of 200 passengers. But it is a different aircraft technically. I think it has an extra exit door and less galleys to accommodate the extra seats.

Thats the problem with brand new aircraft like this, sometimes it's hard to find accurate info.

The ACAPS has been updated. The OEW for the 737-8 has increased to 99,360 lbs. MTOW remains 181,200 lbs. 

On a standard day, on a dry runway with a standard temperature at MTOW the 737-8 uses around 8,200 feet for the take-off run. 
On a standard FAA/EASA day with a temp of 15 degrees Celsius at MTOW the 737-8 uses around 8,700 feet for the take-off run.

[Unknown98]

I've updated OEW, and the runway requirement to 8,200 ft.

I guess I don't understand the difference between a "standard day" and a "standard FAA/EASA day". Which number should be use for the takeoff run at MTOW?

[Stebah]

I've updated OEW, and the runway requirement to 8,200 ft.

I guess I don't understand the difference between a "standard day" and a "standard FAA/EASA day". Which number should be use for the takeoff run at MTOW?

The FAA/EASA figure is based upon standard atmospheric pressure, standard temperature of 15 degrees Celsius and a dry runway. 
The standard day is based upon a dry runway and atmospheric pressure. 

It's basically the same as they can calculate it for different temperatures as they have done. The difference is just 500 feet at MTOW so with this particular model it doesn't matter that much.

[Stebah]

Hey Unk,

I was just browsing through the different OEM's trying to figure out what plane to lease and I noticed something. The take-off run for the Airbus A350-900 is much lower then it should be. 
I just browsed through the ACAPS document and found the take-off run at MTOW (275T) to be between 8,400 and 8,920 feet depending on the conditions. I personally always use ISA conditions with a standard temperature of 15 degrees Celsius at a pressure altitude of 0 feet to calculate the take-off run. Then the take-off run should be 8,920 feet instead of the current 7,200 feet.

[Unknown98]

Thanks,. I've updated it to 8920 ft now.