(01-13-2019, 03:40 PM)Unknown98 Wrote: I know. Feedback is necessary, just difficult to get it working for all types of airlines. I get it right for LCC's, and carde can't run his premium airline. I get it right for both of those and then full service people complain. lol

So I just made the change to the reputation calculations. It will no longer include reputation ratings of 0 in the average. So if you had some quick flights that had 0 reputation, those will no longer be counted. If you offer different classes on different routes, the routes where you do not offer a particular class will no longer lower the reputation of that class.

Just as an example @Zortan your economy reputation stayed the same at around 7.7% but your premium economy went from 3 something to 13%.

The only issue I foresee with this is, lets say you don't have any business or first class. So your reputation for those will be 0, thus lowering your overall rep (as it is designed to be). You could in theory create a config for business and first, run one flight a week, and now the formula will average that one weekly flight and your overall reputation will jump way up. So what I think I need to do is weight the overall reputation based on the number of flights you operate. Idk what the number could be, perhaps 20 weekly flights needed for a 100% weight on the formula, anything less than that lowers the weight and prevents this loophole. I'm not sure.

(01-13-2019, 05:16 PM)Unknown98 Wrote: Yes that's how it works, right now economy class is weighted 35% for total reputation. So if you offer Y+, J and F only, in theory your max overall reputation will be 65% due to the lack of economy.

If you added 1 seat of decked out economy, yes it would solve the problem and your max rep would then be 100% as opposed to 65%. But that's not really how it should work IMO. I need to think of something.

But you have to realize that overall reputation does not actually affect anything other than the star rating and the ranking of your airline compared to others. It's not used in any of the formulas.

(01-14-2019, 04:58 AM)lolliftw Wrote: Actually there is really no point to care about ratings right? Unless high overall ratings will boost your demand or something...

Honestly the best way is to create a minimum number of seats required for the rep to be counted. So for instance if number < 4 won't count the rep or something.

What I feel should be changed is the demand formula, so that I don't get punished for my competitor's exorbitant prices. For instance, I have a flight running between Shanghai and London. I am charging $9676 for J and $12306 for F, but right now I am suffering from 0 J passengers because my only competitor is charging $12261 for J and $18182 for F. I could change all my J seats to F to leech that 54 F passengers, but seriously what is this? Although I sound like ranting, I just believe that this is a bug on the formula and should be adjusted so that only I can punish myself by charging F and J prices within 10% of each other (as you said earlier)

(01-15-2019, 01:19 AM)Zortan Wrote: Thanks for fixing the 0 thing Unk it has made a difference to my bottom line

To be completely honest Carde's type of carrier doesn't need to be supported, as IRL who charges thousands and thousands for flights on an ancient A340 or a Concorde? That doesn't need to be made profitable to be brutally honest, but the low-cost carrier model does need to be profitable.

(01-12-2019, 09:01 AM)Anzatax Wrote: I think this is the problem with the reputation system currently:

Economy class are allowed the same options that first class has, and in order to max out economy rating you have to offer the same IFS as first while giving them a bad seat, which is somewhat silly . Why not realistically cut the option that each class has from first class down? For example, I don't think any airline ever served a gourmet 3-course meal in economy; maybe a hot/cold full meal or hot/cold light meal can be the limit of quality offered in economy, and offering such an option should enable one to max the reputation for that class of seating. Then for premium economy onwards the limit is set slightly higher and the full list of options should be available in first class. However, it is up to people to let first class customers suffer economy treatment, because technically an airline could offer peanuts as a snack to first class (although that is one stingy airline); but to serve hundreds of customers in economy a gourmet three-course meal is just crazy and unheard of

Also, how does one ever manage to stick a big IFE screen on a small economy seat back? Maybe the same idea for options can be applied to the IFE too - in economy the screens can only be mid-sized at max and so on.

Another way that allows players more freedom would of course be to just lower the demand for quality in each class, so that maybe a light meal can already be max for reputation in economy while each higher class demands more, but players still have the choice to offer a three-course gourmet meal in any class if they wish . But that way may be a little bit harder to program? At least to me it seems a bit unrealistic.

Just a few suggestions of mine ( in a somewhat long post )